need travel tips (without bike)

Ideas and plans for trips. Route plans. How to get to and from places. Ferry crossings etc. Post your ideas and plans here.

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby José Luiz » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:33 am

I will arrive in Livigno on the afternoon of July 5th. I will stay until the morning of July 8. I made reservations at Hotel Concordia.
I'm not exactly American, I'm South American :D . I speak Portuguese and only a little English :( , but I want to be with you at least once to thank the precious tips that made possible my journey through the Alps in 2013. =D> =D> =D>

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby José Luiz » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:55 am

I don't know what is your plan, but I would very much like to go to Stelvio on Friday morning and have lunch there. It would be a great place to meet.

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Karza » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:18 am

Great Jose!! =D> Hotel Concordia is the next house from our La Montanina, you can join us easily. :wink: We have the Passo Stelvio on our route on Friday the 7th July. Lunch there on top of Stelvio pass including photos with you sounds very nice. You will hear the noice on Thursday when our group will arrive to La Montanina hotel, come to say hello to us then and have a beer or 2 .... :D

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Michael J » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:28 am

The Torri di Fraele is on my list. I've passed it by too many times. Not this year.

It's on the way to "lo Stelvio" - just a minor side trip.
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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Michael J » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:13 am

Of course, you're American. From the tip of Tierra del Fuego to the tip of Nunavut - we're all Americans. Just different flavors. :D

Interesting place, Nunavut. After the original settlers spent their first winter there, they headed back south. When asked why they were leaving, they said that they "would have none of it" - and the name stuck.

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Ludwig » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:03 am

Torri di Fraele is on my list. .(quote)

..and keep going to the dam .
It's an easy dirt road .
Cross the dam , and see how far you can go .
At least till the little church ?
Nice way to practice your off road skills ..
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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Michael J » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:50 pm

What off road skills? :(
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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby The raven » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:07 am

Torri is on my plan too 8)
on a sunny day it is wonderful up there.
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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby José Luiz » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:20 pm

Is it possible to follow the trail to Lake Livigno? In Google Maps seems to have a short road to there.

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Ludwig » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:50 pm

It is just a trail .
I believe past lago San Giacomo is closed for motorised traffic .

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Michael J » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:16 pm

One way to find out...

It's usually easier to get forgiveness than permission. :twisted:
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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby José Luiz » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:25 am

I'm not going to stay in Switzerland. I'll just passing through Maloja and Bernina to get to Livigno. Will I need to buy the Swiss toll stamp?

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby chris f » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:21 am

Basically,the Swiss road vignette is only required on autobahns [usually have road signs in green].
Link below to website which has link to map showing the applicable roads:-
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home/in ... ette-.html

Even for a 1 day use of applicable roads you have to pay full 40 Swiss Franc annual charge so for your short trip worth planning non autobahn route!

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Re: need travel tips (without bike)

Postby Michael J » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:47 am

Besides, there's almost always a toll-free route that usually runs right along side the Autobahn - just a bit slower. Same views, though - and fewer tunnels.
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